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Held der Finsternis
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Posted - 2015.02.17 09:42:30 -
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I have decided to defeat the New Order by starting a Rebel movement that doesn't suck like all those that have come before. I would like to ask all of the kind players here in general discussion to brainstorm ideas to defeat this criminal organization. The best will be considered for implementation.
It would help for those that have been wronged by CODE to share their stories here along with what they are willing to do to help the cause. |
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Posted - 2015.02.17 09:52:47 -
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This will be like no other Rebel force that has yet challenged the space claimed by James 315. Results will be measured in outcomes over time, with the ultimate outcome of complete domination over the New Order even if it takes years and many billions of isk to realize. I am in this for the long haul.
I can't promise anything in particular as we will wage war against the New Order in ways and times of our choosing. For starters, I'm not a complete idiot like all the other rebel commanders before me. And I bring to the table lots of CODE. experience. |
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Posted - 2015.02.17 10:03:27 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Held, I would like to offer you a one time chance to get in the Saviour's good books.
For a payment of 30 million ISK and a sincere apology for your rebel activity, you will be able to be forgiven and become a permit holder for one year (unless your permit is revoked because you participate in unauthorized rebellion again).
The CODE works in mysterious ways. I earnestly believe that EVE can be improved by a legitimate enemy force that does not completely suck to go up against the New Order. Unlike whiny carebear "leaders" of the past, I will forge a new alliance of smarter, craftier, and at-the-keyboard players to wage war for a common cause.
The carebear themepark sickness will be vanquished. But not by making them all permit holders or ganking them into compliance. No, instead by having carebears of highsec everywhere willingly give up their bad ways in favor of being better players.
I welcome all suggestions to achieve this glorious victory. |
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Posted - 2015.02.17 10:15:30 -
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Jack Morrison wrote:One way to beat James315 would be to start writing for the eve news site (named after the goon leader) and write articles with 10+ pages.
You will accumulate much hate (which we know is just another variation of love) and James himself might be ashamed by your skill and retire.
I can write quite a bit. I'm certainly open to a contest between James and myself for word count if there's an interest for that. We'll start with a future blog of my own and see where it all leads. Though he is very skilled, it will be a nice challenge.
Great idea! Keep em coming! |
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Posted - 2015.02.17 10:18:29 -
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Hiasa Kite wrote:IB4 the move.
Also, best of luck to the OP. The new Order has never lost a war. You are indeed up against the most elite of PvPers.
I know, check my employment history friend.  |
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Posted - 2015.02.17 11:12:18 -
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ISD Ezwal wrote:This thread has been moved to Crime & Punishment.
Thank you for your contribution! Ezwal, perhaps you could add some additional suggestions in a hypothetical and neutral stance for how such an effort against an organization such as the New Order could be fruitful? For balance of course, you might offer suggestions to the New Order as well.
Thanks everyone, keep the ideas flowing!
Now accepting corp apps to defeat the New Order!
Mail me an essay why you are special. Send Full account API. Copy James 315 or your favourite agent in #1. Welcome to the Rebels/Good Guys who will DEFEAT CODE.
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Held der Finsternis
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Posted - 2015.02.17 11:45:24 -
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Kavoro Pel wrote:Held der Finsternis wrote:ISD Ezwal wrote:This thread has been moved to Crime & Punishment. Thank you for your contribution! Ezwal, perhaps you could add some additional suggestions in a hypothetical and neutral stance for how such an effort against an organization such as the New Order could be fruitful? For balance of course, you might offer suggestions to the New Order as well. Thanks everyone, keep the ideas flowing! My interpretation of this post is that you have no idea how you're going to defeat the New Order.
You are welcome to interpret anything however you wish. All ideas are welcome! Final Victory is rather simple, really. Highsec carebears will, over time, gravitate to my corp and future alliance. Together as one, we will suffocate the New Order from having any real success. There is no real need to publish a rather extensive roadmap in print as such a display of words would make James' longest articles look short in comparison.
Now accepting corp apps to defeat the New Order!
Simply mail me an essay about yourself and the New Order. Please copy in James 315 or your favourite agent. Don't forget to separately mail me a full account api (no expiration) for security.
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Posted - 2015.02.17 12:19:44 -
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Intar Medris wrote:This again  The best way to defeat CODE well let's see? How about just ignoring them. Reallyy they are just a bunch role-playing gankers. Been ganked once the whole time I have played EVE, and perhaps had one fail ganking attempt long before that. Still trying to figure out what happened with that one. Because the would be ganker ended up punting my Hulk over 100km from him when he warped in. Guess what? Neither the possible attempt or the successful gank was by CODE. Getting close to 5 years in EVE and only one gank. Yeah gankers are only a problem if you are complete idiot, and decide to conduct your business where they are active. Wonder how many gank victims on the CODE KB are repeat victims?
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5497455
I will need to later post the New Code here I suppose. Ezwal failed to see the obvious distinction between the threads. Sigh...
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Posted - 2015.02.18 15:05:43 -
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There are many reasons why Highsec Carebears will join our cause. If you answer yes to just one of the following questions, you may be a good fit for this movement:
1. Do you mine because it's relaxing?
2. Are you tired of 12 year old basement dwellers ganking and otherwise harassing you?
3. Are you sick and tired of scammers and others not working for their isk honestly trying to take advantage of you and other honourable players in highsec?
4. Do you have friends in high places, perhaps powerful nullsec alliances?
5. Do you understand that without miners, mission runners, haulers, and industry folk, there would be no ships for these bullies to buy?
6. Do you understand that CODE. and other New Order people would make more isk if they just embraced our way of doing things instead of ganking honourable space folk like us?
7. Shouldn't these kids just meet us in lowsec for an honest pvp fight if they are so good?
8. Do you realize the futility in the fact that when they bump or gank someone, they can't bother other people? They can't be everywhere at once!
9. Did you know that you can simply leave the system you're in and go somewhere else where they won't bother you?
10. Did you know that these (insert wwii reference) don't even follow their own code?
11. Do you believe in Honour and refuse to pay these extortionists out of principle?
12.. Whether you have no money because you just bought your ship and are new or are busy playing on your alt anyway, wouldn't you enjoy seeing the New Order crumble into the dustbin of history?
Join me and together we shall battle the New Order in new and interesting ways. Together we will ultimately defeat them, not just on the battlefield or at highsec choke points, but we will win hearts and minds and they will flock to join us themselves as they see everything coming down around them. Together, we can ensure the isk faucet flows freely in highsec and eliminate the scourge of highsec.
Now accepting corp apps to defeat the New Order!
Simply mail me an essay about yourself and the New Order. Please copy in James 315 or your favourite agent. Don't forget to separately mail me a full account api (no expiration) for security.
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Held der Finsternis
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Posted - 2015.02.18 16:59:43 -
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I have a very special announcement to make.
Today, February 18th, 2015 at 11:52 eastern time, the corporation that leads the Rebel movement against the tyranny of James 315 has elected me, Held der Finsternis to have the title of Supreme Commander of Highsec. In this role, I will act as leader of all Highsec Rebels who oppose the rule of James 315 and his "New Order." The vote was unanimous.
Like George Washington, I have no aspirations to be a king, even though others would wish this of me. I will fight for Democracy in all of Highsec. Once the New Order has been defeated, I will step down as Supreme Commander of Highsec if the electorate votes as such. But for the time being, I declare that all of highsec is now in a state of martial law, led by me.
Join me brothers of highsec. Join me and together we shall defeat the New Order.
Now accepting corp apps to defeat the New Order!
Simply mail me an essay about yourself and the New Order. Please copy in James 315 or your favourite agent. Don't forget to separately mail me a full account api (no expiration) for security.
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Posted - 2015.02.18 17:15:47 -
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Darth Terona wrote:
You're starting a rebellion that will be better than all the rest, but you ask us for help? Do you have no idea how to do it?
You're doomed to repeat the mistakes of those before you! Muhahaha!
There can be no rebellion that achieves lasting results if highsec carebears do not band together in the Rebel cause. This should be obvious. Also, I fixed your grammar errors and reworded for better clarity and form.
I look forward to the huddled masses that hear the message of truth and join me, one by one, uphill on this glorious adventure so that one day all of Highsec will know freedom and democracy. One day, we shall be free of the New Order!
Now accepting corp apps to defeat the New Order!
Simply mail me an essay about yourself and the New Order. Please copy in James 315 or your favourite agent. Don't forget to separately mail me a full account api (no expiration) for security.
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Held der Finsternis
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Posted - 2015.02.18 17:33:58 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Im frankly a little irked that you are attempting to poach people away from my Glorious Highsec Revolutionary Crusade.
Your self centered rebellion will just need to wait until my Glorious Highsec Revolutionary Crusade has finished bringing all of nullsec to its knees with our Autocannon Shield Coercer and Pulse Laser Armor Brawling Blackbird fleets of justice.
Once I have used up the will of highsec to save null, only then may you recruit the leftovers, until then, I refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of your movement.
I am confident that I can sway you to my side in just one conversation in game or elsewhere. I have read many of your great works on the forum, and once my new shiny alliance is formed to really hurt the New Order even more, I believe you will want to join and make an excellent warrior in my forum warriors division.
Now accepting corp apps to defeat the New Order!
Simply mail me an essay about yourself and the New Order. Please copy in James 315 or your favourite agent. Don't forget to separately mail me a full account api (no expiration) for security.
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Held der Finsternis
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Posted - 2015.02.19 01:39:30 -
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The Rebel cause has just advanced forward yet again, with its own Rebels against James 315 and the New Order IPO.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5502711
Stayed tuned for yet more updates!
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Held der Finsternis
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Posted - 2015.02.19 11:11:28 -
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Lord Parallax wrote:Here are a few suggestions.
1. NEVER EVER EVER AFK.
2. mine in barges that are fitted for tanking gankers not max yield ( this means no retrievers)
3. Run escort fleets with the haulers, i.e. have a scout run ahead have combat ships behind the scout to attack the gankers setup on the gates, have webber ships run with the hauler so they can insta warp it. and have ships to loot the hauler if it does get ganked.
4 the #1 rule in eve, NEVER FLY WHAT YOU CANT AFFORD TO LOSE..
and if you really want to have fun getting rid of them make fleets that actively hunt them. Get scouts that let you know where they are, where they are moving to and cut them off.
Find the systems they are most active in and then setup on the gates, and the stations with instalocking tackle frigs and dessies.
If you keep preventing them from getting a gank off they will start getting irritated and find something else to do.
This is a lengthy task but this is how you win a war with bottom feeders like this.
I started doing this and I have almost cleared them out of Niarja and Madi while I am online. If I had more people to cover the other time zones Niarja and madi would be liberated of their existence.
Yes some or all of these are on the list, thanks! Shares are flying off the shelves at an annualized rate far higher than New Order shares so far! Head over to market discussion and buy some and help defeat these guys for good.
Now accepting corp apps to defeat the New Order!
Simply mail me an essay about yourself and the New Order. Please copy in James 315 or your favourite agent. Don't forget to separately mail me a full account api (no expiration) for security.
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Held der Finsternis
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Posted - 2015.02.19 11:23:19 -
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Of course I wish you well. Sadly, hundreds if not thousands of players have tried and failed at exactly what you are saying, practically saying the same things word for word. In fact, there are at least hundreds of players trying to do exactly what you hope to do without much success whatsoever.
There's a difference in my organization and strategy that will become apparent over time. I am confident many like yourself will see this and choose to join in on the winning team.
Now accepting corp apps to defeat the New Order!
Simply mail me an essay about yourself and the New Order. Please copy in James 315 or your favourite agent. Don't forget to separately mail me a full account api (no expiration) for security.
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Held der Finsternis
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Posted - 2015.02.19 11:39:04 -
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Lord Parallax wrote:I see 2 sides of your agenda.
1 attempt to revitalize the reputation of bottom feeders and their cause
2 secretly gain funding for them b/c they are losing their current source.
Either way, if you were serious about ending code, you would do what I and many others are already doing. Beat them at their own game.
You are both right and wrong at the same time. Your numbered points are ridiculous, but I can see where the paranoia comes from- they are quite good at what they do. It's the latter part where we run into the provable problems. What you state you wish to do, and what others are doing, is not affecting them whatsoever in any way. You are literally just wasting your time and providing them content. You do not defeat them by camping gates and protecting the odd freighter from a gank. Gank ships are cheap, so even if you foil a handful of waves, you are literally wasting the collective time of all the white knights logged in. The criminal countdown is 15 minutes. Yet white knights sit around and chat in local, while the ganking fleets go off and hit another target. You are doing LITERALLY no damage to them. Cats are cheap. Targets are juicy. You can't win by shooting cats or repping random freighters who don't thank you in any way whatsoever. They are afk.
You haven't chased a single agent from any system, anywhere. You have no reputation, and you won't gain any that is useful if you continue with your plan. Especially if you adopt the typical carebear mentality of attacking your allies.
Highsec is littered with the failed attempts of thousands of players and corps just like yourself. Without change, this will continue indefinitely.
What I offer you is change. You fail to see it currently. But while you fly your ship around solo, I've already raised 1.5b isk towards the cause. In one day, while doing other things. As my movement builds and I bring rather unique expertise to the table, you'll see the measure differences between our approaches over time. But unlike you, I am not attacking you. I am merely describing how I hope you change for your own benefit and for the benefit of everyone in highsec.
I welcome the day when you join me to finally bring about a New Era for Highsec.
YES WE CAN!
Now accepting corp apps to defeat the New Order!
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Posted - 2015.02.20 07:19:37 -
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UPDATE
1st blog post up...
http://www.heroesofhighsec.com/
Supreme Commander of Highsec
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Posted - 2015.02.20 14:55:19 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:Less talk more action.
It been a while since a corp and alliance was build to do what you want to do. Last ones all went up in flames and I relish at the idea of facing another White Knight/Anti-Code corp. There is a reason why people in AG are mostly in NPC or 1 man corps... like you are.
Yes, there will be lots of action. I have just published the 3rd blog post. Rome was not built in a day and so this rebellion will take some time, even a year or longer if need be. But I will not rush to lose ships and other such foolishness like all the prior rebel corps and movements have done. I will follow a bold strategy that will take time. But, unlike the failed rebels before me, I will not be scammed, awoxxed, or otherwise defeated in battle to such an extent that I have to give up like they did. I am taking the slow, methodical approach. I'm sure lots of people will laugh, just as many did when James was alone himself. But so far we are raising funds faster than James and I am confident we shall see victory.
I look forward to seeing you on the battlefield, whichever side you choose. And my fleets will be undocked and engaging. As I've told investors in private, I see wardec as great practice for budding rebels, not anything to be feared. But we will do so in ships that we can easily replace.
Good luck to everyone in the coming war. May the best side win. But most importantly, may everyone have fun.
Supreme Commander of Highsec
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Posted - 2015.02.20 17:11:36 -
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There has been much discussion in game about official titles for "agents" and "knights." In the New Order, agents are Code enforcers with any corp affiliation whil knights are members of the CODE. alliance.
What would you call the Rebel equivalents?
Here are some of the ideas being considered:
AGENT equivalent:
Ranger
Saviour
Advocate
Sheriff
Deputy
Gallant
Protector
Partisan
Vanquisher
Defender
Medalist
Hero
KNIGHT equivalent:
Champion
Templar
Goblin
Orc
Now that I have gone through this exercise thinking up some more ones, I think it's clear to me now.
I decree that the rebel "agent" shall henceforth be known as..
Hero
and the rebel "Knight" shall henceforth be known as...
Templar
I do not rule out having multiple levels, using some of the words above, to denote special achievements and such. Please share any ideas you may have!
Supreme Commander of Highsec
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Held der Finsternis
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Posted - 2015.02.20 17:29:30 -
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Jennifer en Marland wrote:Not sure if you're a troll, scammer or both...I'm guessing both 
Neither. I certainly hope to see you as a shareholder and/or hero very soon so that together we can defeat James 315 and his cronies. Skepticism is healthy, as long as you are open-minded to see how this plays out as my forces march towards victory.
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Posted - 2015.02.20 18:38:48 -
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Jennifer en Marland wrote:Held der Finsternis wrote:Jennifer en Marland wrote:Not sure if you're a troll, scammer or both...I'm guessing both Neither. I certainly hope to see you as a shareholder and/or hero very soon so that together we can defeat James 315 and his cronies. Skepticism is healthy, as long as you are open-minded to see how this plays out as my forces march towards victory. The fact that you're asking for isk without ever having done anything to fight Code puts you perilously close to the 'scammer' category. I know you'll never see one cent from me unless you do something pretty amazing that i couldn't do myself. Lord Jasta wrote:So what if a former agent wanted to right the wrongs he had committed before? Then he should hurry up and right them, instead of making forum posts about how he's supposedly going to lead other people into doing it for him
As I've pointed out to other (so far) failed rebels, the quest to defeat James 315 and the New Order is one that takes careful planning and many steps. It is about winning hearts and minds. The founder of the anti-ganking channel expressed many similar things. You could call it AG groupthink I suppose. Perhaps on my blog I'll address this in more detail soon. But in a nutshell, he asked, what would it take to declare victory?
It is quite clear to me. If any of these victory goals are things you'd like to see, then we should talk:
1. Agents and Knights join the Heroes of Highsec and renounce their wicked ways. (remember folks, hearts and minds.)
2. The CODE. alliance is disbanded, with no alternative alliance setup to replace it.
3. James 315 stops writing.
You can't achieve these goals merely by camping gates with some electronic warfare and reps. You can't do it alone or in small packs.
No, that is the FAILED strategy of all the rebels who have come before me. They rely on primative tactics and a bit of high-fives, while they waste countless man hours away doing nothing of value whatsoever. Occassionally, they'll destroy a cheap catalyst or two.
Now, don't get me wrong. Anti-ganking is a part of the strategy, but it's just one component. You have to win the forum too, without being constantly ridiculed. You also can't routinely have your rebel corps and alliances sacked by New Order forces, continously creating new corps and feeding content to Minerbumping.com
You also can't be so paranoid of letting your duly elected Supreme Commander of Highsec into your chat channels. It is a well known fact that New Order spies are always in there. What are you hiding, your schedules? If you think you have anything to hide, you need to beef up your security instead of making it so laughable. When I was a Knight, our around-the-clock surveillance of anti-ganking and other Rebel channels revealed that the entire rebel community had no plan, no hope, and were really cute.
You are so afraid of being scammed or tricked or otherwise misled by agents of the New Order, that you shoot yourselves in the feet hoping it will protect you.
So what have I done so far? Keep in mind it has been about 2 days. I have raised nearly 2 billion isk from a number of interested shareholders who wish to see real change come to Highsec. I have setup a blog with an actual domain name. I've posted articles, and I've setup a lot of the static pages. I've done interviews with many more prospective supporters both in chats and various teamspeaks. I've even had isk thrown at the rebel movement by New Order supporters themselves, much like Goons have done for Gevlon, simply because they find it funny. That's fine with me- I'll take isk from anyone and then use it to defeat James 315 and so on as stated.
So now... what have YOU done? All I hear are stories of failures.
But that doesn't matter. That's the point. We, as rebels, need to band together to defeat our common enemy instead of constantly attacking one another. That is the Carebear Problem. Eventually I will overcome that, one rebel at a time. It is just getting a fit frustrating to even see you spout out what is essentially fearful talking points written down by carebears of past who se advice is to do everything possible that cowers in the face of advertsity instead of tackling the problem head on and intelligently.
Join me. Let's defeat the New Order together.
Supreme Commander of Highsec
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Held der Finsternis
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Posted - 2015.02.20 18:46:37 -
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Erica Dusette wrote:Held der Finsternis wrote:Hiasa Kite wrote:IB4 the move.
Also, best of luck to the OP. The new Order has never lost a war. You are indeed up against the most elite of PvPers. I know, check my employment history friend. Tbh it kinda makes your effort look more like either a CODE publicity tactic and/or a way to bring them even more targets via the people you recruit and "lead into battle".  This kind of thing is common in FW. Though if it's legit then I'm pretty sure CODE and everyone watching will welcome the extra content with open arms. In anycase, starting off by saying you want to win and be different than the rest, then asking for suggestions on exactly how to do that, doesn't bode real well.
Well, you are wrong. But let me explain why, as I have done so already to that exact question earlier in this thread. The failed rebels of past have come to the table with crazy, naive plans and refused to listen to reason. They all want to be kings but no one wants to be a soldier. They end up getting their asses handed to them. Instead of learning and adapting, they whine and fill out paperwork for our overworked GM's.
I already have extensive plans for how I will achieve ultimate victory. Obviously, I have not posted them in full here for opsec. But I would be absolutely foolish NOT to ask for suggestions from the community, adapting good ideas as make sense.
This is not an attack on you, just your thinking on this matter. Seriously give it some thought. I'm confident you'll come around and share your own suggestions.
Supreme Commander of Highsec
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Held der Finsternis
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Posted - 2015.02.20 18:59:02 -
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Renegade Heart wrote:Held der Finsternis wrote:So what have I done so far? Keep in mind it has been about 2 days..... And you still have no lossmails of gankers. Held der Finsternis wrote:So now... what have YOU done? Jennifer actually goes out there and shoots at CODE. There are many lossmails that show this. Who has done more? I'd say Jennifer. If people want to throw isk at any antigankers at this stage Jennifer seems your best bet!
So you admit you didn't read anything I posted. Shooting catalyst pilots who are on a mission to lose their ship is not how you defeat CODE. LMAO. LIke I said, cute as hell.
I look forward to the day when we join forces together. The Carebear Problem, as I alluded to earlier, is the well-known fact that carebears and rebels as a whole, as you are demonstrating, favor taking solo actions over group efforts of any significance, favor small actions over actual change, and argue over and over with people who share a common cause with them.
But, if you insist on repeatedly failing, I guess I'll just have to deal with that and lead the resistance without you and others of limited thinking on this matter.
Jenifer yet again proves my point here:
Jennifer en Marland wrote:I So I'm not going to waste any more time engaging with a troll. 
Supreme Commander of Highsec
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Posted - 2015.02.20 19:25:32 -
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Renegade Heart wrote:Held der Finsternis wrote:trollolol I read it all. I read most of the blog too. It is not my fault your shoddy reading skills lead you to conclude I am of "limited thinking" and I already stated how to beat CODE earlier in the thread, without mention of shooting any catalysts. You are talking a lot about antiganking though and doing nothing. Talk... inaction... talk... inaction...
Not at all, simply saying that to beat CODE. you have to use CODE. tactics in your strategy or you are doomed to fail. You and I have many things we can agree on. I'm trying to get you to the point where you can see that is all. I'll be here for this cause for a very long time. And unlike so many others, I'll engage with them with a fun and polite attitude. This is a game that so many get rather worked up over.
Supreme Commander of Highsec
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Posted - 2015.02.20 20:06:18 -
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Renegade Heart wrote:Held der Finsternis wrote:Not at all, simply saying that to beat CODE. you have to use CODE. tactics in your strategy or you are doomed to fail. You and I have many things we can agree on. I'm trying to get you to the point where you can see that is all. I'll be here for this cause for a very long time. And unlike so many others, I'll engage with them with a fun and polite attitude. This is a game that so many get rather worked up over. So, are you aware that Jennifer suicide ganked a bump mach? Can we expect to see donations diverted into SRP for such operations in the future? I can appreciate you not wanting to share all of your plan, but surely a killmail of that kind would be something to inspire carebears to part with some of their hard-earned AFK mining income?
In due time, I'm sure. Right now, I'm working on funding an alliance and then recruiting some. I could do it now, but I don't want to deplete the Treasury too quickly at the beginning. There will be some killmails then, and so on, while other parts of the plan are put into motion. While I work on initial funding, I'm getting the blog setup with some initial articles and static resource pages. Of course this will all grow in time, but it's a lot to work on right now for the coming days. To let a little bit out the bag, I'll form up some fleets of fast tackle and fast locking interceptors to engage gank fleets in combat in open space, not just jam them on gates. Time will tell whether that will be effective with rookie rebel pilots or not, but it should be fun for everyone including the gankers. As far as SRP, I definitely want to get there but not how they do SRP for ganking, but more like how they hand out free fitted ships for fleets they FC.
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I have assembled some of the greatest minds Highsec has ever seen together in one chat channel called "Council of Uedama" and all rebels and rebel supporters are welcome to join. It is here that we will examine the old Code and draft the New Code of Uedama. Together these "old" and "new" works are believed to be put together into a new BOOK or something like that. We will think of a catchy title. I will lock myself in the Council chambers until the Council publishes the final works.
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The Council of Uedama was up into late early hours working tirelessly on revising the Old Code. Copies were disseminated throughout Highsec for a short period of time before the revision will be posted onto the Heroes website. Full minutes from the Council of Uedama chat logs will be made available to the public. In the coming days, the Council will reconvene to draft the New Code of Uedama, the Code of the Heroes of Highsec. Taken together, the Old Code (revised) and the New Code shall be combined into one great Book to be used as guidance for all of highsec, the old and the new.
Despite some skepticism and disbelief, it is becoming clearer to everyone of Highsec that the Heroes of Highsec is a legitimate rebel movement here permanently until the glorious victory over the New Order one day. Together, we can ensure that day arrives sooner than most anticipate.
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I'm pleased to report that the Revised CODE of the New Order is completed and posted on HeroesofHighsec.com
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Alastair Ormand wrote:CODE will be implanting a spy shortly. Well done moron.
I'm sure there will be spies, but they won't be able to take anything or do anything remotely disruptive. I know their tricks and their methods. I am implementing security measures in my own corp (and soon alliance) that will prevent most of what they have done to everyone else. The risks of posting what I choose to C&P are far less than the benefit the Heroes of HIghsec get from the exposure.
I'm glad so many are posting their criticisms here publicly though. It will be all the sweeter when we achieve final victory over the New Order. I'm not taking any of this personally, it's par for the course when dealing with this subject matter. I look forward to welcoming most of the dissenters into the warm embrace of the Heroes of Highsec once we have racked up victory after victory...
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Solonius Rex wrote:Held der Finsternis wrote:Alastair Ormand wrote:CODE will be implanting a spy shortly. Well done moron. I'm sure there will be spies, but they won't be able to take anything or do anything remotely disruptive. I know their tricks and their methods. I am implementing security measures in my own corp (and soon alliance) that will prevent most of what they have done to everyone else. The risks of posting what I choose to C&P are far less than the benefit the Heroes of HIghsec get from the exposure. I'm glad so many are posting their criticisms here publicly though. It will be all the sweeter when we achieve final victory over the New Order. I'm not taking any of this personally, it's par for the course when dealing with this subject matter. I look forward to welcoming most of the dissenters into the warm embrace of the Heroes of Highsec once we have racked up victory after victory... You should employ JTClone ares into your corp as a director. Surely after being the victim of 2 successful awox/corp/alliance takeover events, he mustve learned something by now.
Funny you mention that. One of JTClone's alliances was made available for sale to me. I thought on the one hand, it would be somewhat fitting, but on the other hand forebode failure... so I will be taking an alternative approach.
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New blog post up. If you have been a scam victim or know someone who has, check it out!
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Karla the Careless wrote:Still ain't getting no steenking purmint from you or those code people.
After our forces defeat the New Order, there will be no need to own a mining permit. I am not asking you to buy a permit of any kind. However, it would obviously help for you to voluntarily purchase shares to help the cause, even if just a small amount. Or join the fight.
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Karla the Careless wrote:Held der Finsternis wrote:Karla the Careless wrote:Still ain't getting no steenking purmint from you or those code people. After our forces defeat the New Order, there will be no need to own a mining permit. I am not asking you to buy a permit of any kind. However, it would obviously help for you to voluntarily purchase shares to help the cause, even if just a small amount. Or join the fight. From your site: Mining indulgences may be purchased for 10 million isk per character, and are good for one year, subject to loss. A carebear is deemed to have lost his permit if he makes egregious violations of suggestions found herein the Old Code. He can always purchase a new one without limitation. Permits may also be purchased on behalf of others, including all members of a corporation, provided that the permit holders generally abide by most of the suggestions, most of the time. It is generally expected that carebears shall display their permits proudly via an attribution in their bios. A standard format shall by suggested by his agent, and such format may change from time to time. Records may be maintained so as to combat the possibility of a counterfeit permit. Upon being suicide ganked, a carebear should congratulate the ganker on his success. A "good fight" or "gf" in local is customary. Traditionally, this is a good opportunity for a carebear to purchase a permit and discuss the merits of the Old Code. On top of that, it seems that more than a few of your "shareholders" are from the old code Pretty hard to say that permits are not required, so I still ain't getting no steenking permint from you or those code people On top of that, it seems that more than a few of your "shareholders" are from the old code. A prime example of new boss is just like the old boss.
Yes, that is the New Order's Code. Soon, our Code shall be posted. Feel free to look around the site as your questions and comments will be answered there.
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:I think if you just embedded the notion of no mechanics nerfs into your counter-CODE, I could get behind you. We have been saying for years that the tear-filled need to man-up and pew those they complain about (like CODE), so it would be hypocrisy not to support such an initiative if bounded properly against the heresy of mechanics nerfs.
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I'll need your help in the Council of Uedama just like last time when I draft the Code for the Heroes of Highsec. I do not support any mechanics changes or petitions of any sort to win this war, or in general. In my view, nerfs and buffs should be extremely rare, if ever. And players should not be writing messages to CCP to fight their battles for them. They should undock and engage in glorious combat or do other player initiated and driven things.
That's why I have been spending days trying to raise funds for the cause.
But the Code of Uedama may take days nonstop to draft, so I haven't done it yet. Maybe this weekend, or next.
I also need to sit down and think of some categories to tag my blog posts with. For instance, I am thinking of doing a section on scams and how to avoid them, so I'll need a category tag for that series. I don't want to randomly select multiple tags for every post like some blogs do, but actually separate them into meaningful sections.
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Lan Wang wrote:Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Seems like a typical code endorsed scam. The only hard part is figuring out which code member held is....rabe raptor perhaps? ... Why do you assume that that is an alt? Because I'm pretty much familiar with all the code mains, and he ain't one of em. The trollific nature of his campaign assures me that he is in fact a code alt, who is engaging in this foolishness to scam pathetic miners out of their isk, and will then a post a mocking series of blog posts on the minerbumping website. We have been here before, folks. So he isn't known to you and actually trying to do something rather than just crying like you so it must be a scam? Is he stealing your imaginary thunder or something? i dunno what he's actually trying to do apart from raise money, 4billion isk invested and not even got any killboard activity since 6th january
I have addressed this comment/question/concern multiple times in this thread, individual chats, groups discussions, and now here, it's almost as if you have an agenda...
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Lan Wang wrote:just wanna see you shoot something :( *sadface, do you have a TL;DR version of the link?
Yeah it talks about shooting stuff. Please show us you have the reading competency I know you have. Please stop trolling this thread.
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Michael Ruckert wrote:Held der Finsternis wrote:
I have decided to defeat the New Order by starting a Rebel movement that doesn't suck like all those that have come before. I would like to ask all of the kind players here in general discussion to brainstorm ideas to defeat this criminal organization. The best will be considered for implementation.
It would help for those that have been wronged by CODE to share their stories here along with what they are willing to do to help the cause.
Idea: Monthly Ganking Permit Target top three New Order gankers as listed on killboards. Gather intel about when they are online and where stationed. Hire top merc groups to station camp them when online. Station camp only lifted when a top three ganker pays xxx billion for Monthly Ganking Permit. Rinse and repeat as top three New Order ganker list revises.
That's a cool idea. Guys this is what I'm talking about, let's come up with great ideas like this. For interested shareholders, there's an IPO thread in MD, or you can find links in my bio.
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Posted - 2015.03.06 09:26:58 -
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New blog post up. It has plot twists!
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A few blogs posts later... We have an alliance!
"Heroes of Highsec Alliance"
Also, shareholder funds have been moved to Caretaker Held, of the "Heroes of Highsec" corp, where shareholder funds will be kept segregated. Funds will be invested as originally stated, but instead of waiting until final victory for profit, around or about 50% of profits will get paid directly out to shareholders, with the other half going into a special fund just for fighting the New Order. This sort of structure will help keep funds separate for their intended purposes. A mechanism to allow shareholders to easily choose whether they want dividend reinvestment on or off will be coming soon.
Everything is being done above board and as we settle into what will become routine processes and procedures, I will post API's and do regular shareholder reports. We are just under 5 billion isk in funds.
Over the course of the next week or so, focus will be on getting the investment funds in the market and recruiting individuals and corps into the official alliance.
While I have personally invested over a billion isk to make this all a reality, I have not awarded myself any shares for personal profit. I will of course need to fund PLEXes and such for running this operation, but everything will be done in the most transparent and fair way possible. We may hold 10% out as an "operating expense" fee and split the remaining 50/50 between shareholders and the endowment fund, but that is yet to be decided.
Now, as far as actionable ideas for defeating the New Order, as I know you all want to hear, particularly when it involves spaceships, I was thinking of some ideas earlier and would like some feedback.
1. Would there be interest in the Heroes of Highsec funding Deathstar POSes sprinkled throughout major mining systems for the purpose of a place for Heroes to keep their boosting orcas safe?
2. Seeding Anti-ganking ships and modules in major ganking systems? Any seeding of rebel equipment would be done at a good profit so as to deter the New Order from simply buying out our supplies.
3. New Player Training corp for the purposes of getting new players up to speed and safe?
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Blog is updated with a major development!
http://www.heroesofhighsec.com/2015/03/heroes-of-highsec-joins-forces-with.html
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Due to popular demand, the Heroes Code has now been released!
http://www.heroesofhighsec.com/p/the-heroes-code.html
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Karla the Careless wrote:- Heroes may, from time to time, declare war on carebear corporations that violate the terms of this agreement. It is expected that such carebear corporations either improve their ways or dissolve to join the Heroes of Highsec Alliance so as to better themselves. Carebears will be expected to bear the cost of all war-related expenses for the Heroes. Furthermore, carebears will be expected to buy some shares to GÇ£get rightGÇ¥ with the organization and show that they want to be better. Heroes will suggest the proper level of investment.
Please inform me where I agreed to the agreement that is quoted from your website. Pending irrefutable evidence that I personally informed you that I have in fact agreed to this steaming pile, there is no agreement between you and I.
You were invited to vote for the rebel leader. You did not show up. Please try to catch up and not pick things out of context. Thanks. I look forward to your participation in making HIghsec better.
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updated ipo thread with some important shareholder news. tl/dr- temp loan from shareholder funds to myself for fun community event this weekend in which profits will be split with shareholders and funds paid back in full after weekend.
I invite everyone to fly over to Uedama this weekend. I'll be there for at least 8 hours personally on saturday and we'll do some fun fleets.
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